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Re: FCC fees for Amateur radio services

Jon Cole
 

The FCC fees have varied widely over the last few decades. I was frankly surprised when they were reduced to zero and I assumed it was only a matter of time before they raised it again. I think that less is better, but even if they charge $100, it would only be $10 a year. Annoying but not bad. I was more concerned with the cost of an official copy of your license. 

Jon Cole, N0OFJ 

On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:


I hold every individule radio liscense avaiable from the FCC.  The comerical liscenes now never expire.  But I had to pay for them.  Perhaps the FCC is going to do the same for Amature Radio.  Ie a lifetime license.
We used to pay a fee for ham and CB liscense.

So we have been lucky for the past few years.  Times change.


Ralph Howard
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Tim Spurgeon <tims173@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:12:44 PM
To: main <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Cc: main <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] FCC fees for Amateur radio services
 
FCC, are you kidding me?

You know, it is not the so much the money as it is the lack of respect the HAM community gets for its hard work:

We spend our time and money to pass examination for Tech., General, and Extra,
We spend our money and time to purchase our radios, antennas, power supplies, go kits,
We spend our money and time to be prepared for times of emergency,
We spend our time and money to participate in CMRA and BCARES club activities,
We spend our time and money to join and participate with Boone County Emergency organizations,
We spend our time and money to join and participate with S.E.M.A.
We spend our time and money to join and participate with F.E.M.A.
We spend our time and money to pass S.E.M.A. and F.E.M.A. training classes and tests,
     (as many of these courses I have taken, reimbursement has been offered to police, firefighters, and first responders in the class
      for travel, lodging, and food; I have paid my own way for the same.)
We spend out time and money to practice our skills in radio sport through S.E.T.s and Field Days,
We spend out time and money to learn radio theory of computer aided radio, Software Defined Radio, and Morse Code,
We spend our time and money to Elmer new HAMs and some of us through serving as V.E.,
We spend our time away from wives, husbands, and kids.

If the Federal government wants to regulate and control the radio waves in its jurisdiction, the least it can do is not stand in our way
and make it harder on us and make it more expensive to be ready for public service.  They should be ashamed of this proposal!

Keep this up, FCC, and I will take my toys and go home!

Sincerely,

Tim E. Spurgeon
"Expecting the best; prepared for the worst."

************************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Beatty" <jebeatty@...>
To: "main" <main@cmra.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:34:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CMRA] FCC fees for Amateur radio services

I don't favor reinstituting fees as defined.  We're doing our best to lower the cost of entry.  Our numbers are shrinking as it is. This just adds more "friction".

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On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Gary Vaught - W9TIG <gdv.pops@...<mailto:gdv.pops@...>> wrote:
While I dislike the potential for this to discourage some from becoming new operators, I think that this is a responsible move - IF it's truly a cost-based fee.

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught


We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:50 PM paul watt < pbw65@...<mailto:pbw65@...>> wrote:
Check it out ..

http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-proposes-to-reinstate-amateur-radio-service-fees

--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught







Re: FCC fees for Amateur radio services

Ralph Howard
 

I hold every individule radio liscense avaiable from the FCC.  The comerical liscenes now never expire.  But I had to pay for them.  Perhaps the FCC is going to do the same for Amature Radio.  Ie a lifetime license.
We used to pay a fee for ham and CB liscense.

So we have been lucky for the past few years.  Times change.


Ralph Howard
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Tim Spurgeon <tims173@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:12:44 PM
To: main <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Cc: main <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] FCC fees for Amateur radio services
 
FCC, are you kidding me?

You know, it is not the so much the money as it is the lack of respect the HAM community gets for its hard work:

We spend our time and money to pass examination for Tech., General, and Extra,
We spend our money and time to purchase our radios, antennas, power supplies, go kits,
We spend our money and time to be prepared for times of emergency,
We spend our time and money to participate in CMRA and BCARES club activities,
We spend our time and money to join and participate with Boone County Emergency organizations,
We spend our time and money to join and participate with S.E.M.A.
We spend our time and money to join and participate with F.E.M.A.
We spend our time and money to pass S.E.M.A. and F.E.M.A. training classes and tests,
     (as many of these courses I have taken, reimbursement has been offered to police, firefighters, and first responders in the class
      for travel, lodging, and food; I have paid my own way for the same.)
We spend out time and money to practice our skills in radio sport through S.E.T.s and Field Days,
We spend out time and money to learn radio theory of computer aided radio, Software Defined Radio, and Morse Code,
We spend our time and money to Elmer new HAMs and some of us through serving as V.E.,
We spend our time away from wives, husbands, and kids.

If the Federal government wants to regulate and control the radio waves in its jurisdiction, the least it can do is not stand in our way
and make it harder on us and make it more expensive to be ready for public service.  They should be ashamed of this proposal!

Keep this up, FCC, and I will take my toys and go home!

Sincerely,

Tim E. Spurgeon
"Expecting the best; prepared for the worst."

************************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Beatty" <jebeatty@...>
To: "main" <main@cmra.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:34:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CMRA] FCC fees for Amateur radio services

I don't favor reinstituting fees as defined.  We're doing our best to lower the cost of entry.  Our numbers are shrinking as it is. This just adds more "friction".

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On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Gary Vaught - W9TIG <gdv.pops@...<mailto:gdv.pops@...>> wrote:
While I dislike the potential for this to discourage some from becoming new operators, I think that this is a responsible move - IF it's truly a cost-based fee.

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught


We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:50 PM paul watt < pbw65@...<mailto:pbw65@...>> wrote:
Check it out ..

http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-proposes-to-reinstate-amateur-radio-service-fees

--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught







Re: FCC fees for Amateur radio services

Tim Spurgeon
 

FCC, are you kidding me?

You know, it is not the so much the money as it is the lack of respect the HAM community gets for its hard work:

We spend our time and money to pass examination for Tech., General, and Extra,
We spend our money and time to purchase our radios, antennas, power supplies, go kits,
We spend our money and time to be prepared for times of emergency,
We spend our time and money to participate in CMRA and BCARES club activities,
We spend our time and money to join and participate with Boone County Emergency organizations,
We spend our time and money to join and participate with S.E.M.A.
We spend our time and money to join and participate with F.E.M.A.
We spend our time and money to pass S.E.M.A. and F.E.M.A. training classes and tests,
(as many of these courses I have taken, reimbursement has been offered to police, firefighters, and first responders in the class
for travel, lodging, and food; I have paid my own way for the same.)
We spend out time and money to practice our skills in radio sport through S.E.T.s and Field Days,
We spend out time and money to learn radio theory of computer aided radio, Software Defined Radio, and Morse Code,
We spend our time and money to Elmer new HAMs and some of us through serving as V.E.,
We spend our time away from wives, husbands, and kids.

If the Federal government wants to regulate and control the radio waves in its jurisdiction, the least it can do is not stand in our way
and make it harder on us and make it more expensive to be ready for public service. They should be ashamed of this proposal!

Keep this up, FCC, and I will take my toys and go home!

Sincerely,

Tim E. Spurgeon
"Expecting the best; prepared for the worst."

************************************************

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Beatty" <jebeatty@outlook.com>
To: "main" <main@cmra.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:34:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CMRA] FCC fees for Amateur radio services

I don't favor reinstituting fees as defined. We're doing our best to lower the cost of entry. Our numbers are shrinking as it is. This just adds more "friction".

Get BlueMail for Android<http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=15997>
On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Gary Vaught - W9TIG <gdv.pops@gmail.com<mailto:gdv.pops@gmail.com>> wrote:
While I dislike the potential for this to discourage some from becoming new operators, I think that this is a responsible move - IF it's truly a cost-based fee.

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught


We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:50 PM paul watt < pbw65@hotmail.com<mailto:pbw65@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Check it out ..

http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-proposes-to-reinstate-amateur-radio-service-fees

--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


Re: FCC fees for Amateur radio services

John Beatty
 

I don't favor reinstituting fees as defined.  We're doing our best to lower the cost of entry.  Our numbers are shrinking as it is. This just adds more "friction". 

On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Gary Vaught - W9TIG <gdv.pops@...> wrote:
While I dislike the potential for this to discourage some from becoming new operators, I think that this is a responsible move - IF it's truly a cost-based fee.

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:50 PM paul watt < pbw65@...> wrote:


--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


Re: FCC fees for Amateur radio services

Gary Vaught - W9TIG
 

While I dislike the potential for this to discourage some from becoming new operators, I think that this is a responsible move - IF it's truly a cost-based fee.

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:50 PM paul watt <pbw65@...> wrote:


--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


Re: K0SI packet down?

Ryan Raney
 

Hi Don, 

Thanks for your response. You got me thinking about all the settings i've tweaked over the past few days and i found that moving my dcd threshold a little bit in soundmodem and bumping up the tx delay to 300ms helped tremendously. I've never been able to hit K0SI-10 reliably from here, so thanks for confirming that it's expected due to terrain. I can pretty reliably bounce through MMJY or MJEF depending on propagation and just tried both with the settings tweaked with no problems.

User error! 

-Ryan
KE5SUI 


FCC fees for Amateur radio services

paul watt
 

Check it out ..

http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-proposes-to-reinstate-amateur-radio-service-fees


Re: Antenna Tower Installation

William Johnson
 

I have to look in some totes but I think I actually have that Grounding book.


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 3:44 PM James Whitehill <jdwhitehill1603@...> wrote:
That's good news, William.  Willam was an enthusiastic and successful member of the Tech class taught by Myron and I in autumn of 2017  

William, I'll leave it to others for the answers you seek, but would add the importance of grounding and bonding  the tower, to provide lightning and other protections thru grounding and bonding techniques.  Mac, K4CHS, is an expert on the grounding of towers, but another source is that ARRL has a small book on "Grounding and Bonding".  They also have a text on towers by guys who do that for a living (e.g., W2GD).  Also, we have a few experienced "tower guys" in the club who may be free to help.

Jim, N0SSM

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:03 PM Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...> wrote:
Forgot to say that guying information is in another part of the document. There is also max wind load specs. 


On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:51, William Johnson <Wdjohnson81@...> wrote:

My in-laws and I are finally putting up a tower.   The tower is a Rohn 25G that is 80'.   The plan is to bury the 1st half of the 1st section in concrete and the tower will be attached to the building at approximately 20' up.   My question is how big of a concrete foundation do we need to pour for the tower, and also do we need to put guy wires farther up, like at the top?

73, KE0PKO


Re: Antenna Tower Installation

James Whitehill
 

That's good news, William.  Willam was an enthusiastic and successful member of the Tech class taught by Myron and I in autumn of 2017  

William, I'll leave it to others for the answers you seek, but would add the importance of grounding and bonding  the tower, to provide lightning and other protections thru grounding and bonding techniques.  Mac, K4CHS, is an expert on the grounding of towers, but another source is that ARRL has a small book on "Grounding and Bonding".  They also have a text on towers by guys who do that for a living (e.g., W2GD).  Also, we have a few experienced "tower guys" in the club who may be free to help.

Jim, N0SSM


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:03 PM Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...> wrote:
Forgot to say that guying information is in another part of the document. There is also max wind load specs. 


On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:51, William Johnson <Wdjohnson81@...> wrote:

My in-laws and I are finally putting up a tower.   The tower is a Rohn 25G that is 80'.   The plan is to bury the 1st half of the 1st section in concrete and the tower will be attached to the building at approximately 20' up.   My question is how big of a concrete foundation do we need to pour for the tower, and also do we need to put guy wires farther up, like at the top?

73, KE0PKO


Re: Antenna Tower Installation

Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...>
 

Forgot to say that guying information is in another part of the document. There is also max wind load specs. 


On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:51, William Johnson <Wdjohnson81@...> wrote:

My in-laws and I are finally putting up a tower.   The tower is a Rohn 25G that is 80'.   The plan is to bury the 1st half of the 1st section in concrete and the tower will be attached to the building at approximately 20' up.   My question is how big of a concrete foundation do we need to pour for the tower, and also do we need to put guy wires farther up, like at the top?

73, KE0PKO


Re: Antenna Tower Installation

Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...>
 

See http://www.rohnnet.com/files/2015_Rohn_Full_Catalog.pdf#page=170

For self-supporting Rohn G series.  If you are somewhere that needs a permit, the drawings and specs from the manufacturer help a ton. 

73 de Bryan, k0emt


On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:51, William Johnson <Wdjohnson81@...> wrote:

My in-laws and I are finally putting up a tower.   The tower is a Rohn 25G that is 80'.   The plan is to bury the 1st half of the 1st section in concrete and the tower will be attached to the building at approximately 20' up.   My question is how big of a concrete foundation do we need to pour for the tower, and also do we need to put guy wires farther up, like at the top?

73, KE0PKO


Antenna Tower Installation

William Johnson
 

My in-laws and I are finally putting up a tower.   The tower is a Rohn 25G that is 80'.   The plan is to bury the 1st half of the 1st section in concrete and the tower will be attached to the building at approximately 20' up.   My question is how big of a concrete foundation do we need to pour for the tower, and also do we need to put guy wires farther up, like at the top?

73, KE0PKO


Re: K0SI packet down?

Don - KM0R
 

Hi Ryan,

 

Based on your location from the FCC database, you’ll have a better shot at hitting MJEF than going direct to K0SI-10 due to terrain.  A directional antenna might help that some as well. 

 

Try turning up the volume on your radio (assuming you are not using the speaker jack to hook up to your TNC), then listen to the exchange between you and K0SI-10 or MJEF.  Do you hear the other end respond each time you transmit?  If not, the other end may not be hearing your transmissions (or may not be decoding them).  Also, you’ll want to be sure that you are not overdriving your TNC with audio from the radio.  Overdriving the audio will distort the audio and make it hard for the other end to decode your transmissions.  You can also try lengthening your TX Delay setting a bit, usually 300ms is enough but no more than 450ms in my experience with packet.  If the TX Delay is too short, the other end doesn’t have time to sync onto your transmissions. 

 

Hope this helps! 

 

73,

Don – KM0R

 

From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan Raney
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:08
To: main@CMRA.groups.io
Subject: Re: [CMRA] K0SI packet down?

 

I swear I replied to this already but I'm also having trouble. It takes about 5 attempts to completely send/receive. Seems like k0si-10 gives up and doesn't finish the transaction. 


Re: K0SI packet down?

Ryan Raney
 

I swear I replied to this already but I'm also having trouble. It takes about 5 attempts to completely send/receive. Seems like k0si-10 gives up and doesn't finish the transaction. 


K0SI-10 trouble

Ryan Raney
 

I've been trying to reply to the latest post about this but it looks like it's not getting approved. 

I'm still having trouble connecting to winlink on K0SI-10. It seems like it gives up after a bit and I don't get the message 0 sent 0 received etc. It's taken 4 or 5 tries to get a successful connection. Is anyone else having this problem?

-Ryan
KE5SUI


Re: K0SI packet down?

Ryan Raney
 

It took me 4 tries to get it to work, I tried direct twice, I tried through MMJY, and finally through MJEF and it finally sent my test message


Re: CMRA Newsletter Archives Updated

AD0UK
 

Thanks John for the hard work!!!


73


Brian
ADØUK


On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:46 AM John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:
At our CMRA meeting earlier this month Brian (AD0UK) announced a former
club member sent electronic copies of a number of newsletters from past
years. Brian passed them along to me, and they're now on our Newsletter
Archive page at https://k0si.net/newsletter-archive/ .


We now have newsletters dating from 1989 through 2011. Previously we had
newsletters going back to 1996.


73,


John, KC0HSB


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Re: CMRA Newsletter Archives Updated

Gary Vaught - W9TIG
 

Thanks, John!

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:46 AM John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:
At our CMRA meeting earlier this month Brian (AD0UK) announced a former
club member sent electronic copies of a number of newsletters from past
years. Brian passed them along to me, and they're now on our Newsletter
Archive page at https://k0si.net/newsletter-archive/ .


We now have newsletters dating from 1989 through 2011. Previously we had
newsletters going back to 1996.


73,


John, KC0HSB


--
This message came to you from
John Wesley Smith
kc0hsb@...
Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
https://johnwesleysmith.com/





--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


CMRA Newsletter Archives Updated

John W. Smith
 

At our CMRA meeting earlier this month Brian (AD0UK) announced a former club member sent electronic copies of a number of newsletters from past years. Brian passed them along to me, and they're now on our Newsletter Archive page at https://k0si.net/newsletter-archive/ .


We now have newsletters dating from 1989 through 2011. Previously we had newsletters going back to 1996.


73,


John, KC0HSB


--
This message came to you from
John Wesley Smith
kc0hsb@centurytel.net
Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
https://johnwesleysmith.com/


Re: K0SI packet down?

Fred Dittrich
 

Bill

Thanks. I'll give it another try this afternoon.

73

Fred AE0FD



At 09:45 AM 8/25/2020, you wrote:
Thanks Fred,
Can't explain this one. It worked for me. When I went remote to the node I saw that you had connected, but couldnot  tell why you had trouble.Â
It worked for me even going through MJEF (accidentally).
Bill

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:47 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Hi

This morning it says:

*** Starting to call K0SI-10
*** Opening serial port COM6; 9600 baud; Kantronics
*** Connecting to K0SI-10
*** Disconnecting due to timeout


73

Fred AE0FD






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