Date   

Learn about COVID-19 immunity issues

Fred Dittrich
 

Hi

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KBLtUBr1Os Does Getting COVID-19 Make You Immune to It? | SciShow News

Medical professionals will appreciate the dozen or so citations visible when they click Show More which is right below the program title.

73

Fred AE0FD


Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

Ralph Howard
 

Jim.  Sometimes when fonts are changed the computer will insert funny charitors.  Like itbis a scan from a news report then moves to a Mac then to HTML (web) things can get messed up at 4 mhz.  :)


Ralph Howard
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of James Whitehill <jdwhitehill1603@...>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:35:48 AM
To: main@cmra.groups.io <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.
 
Hi Tim,

That's a long, optimistic article you offer to the club, but I could not see the source of the article.  Did I miss it?  I did not miss all the &*#@! insertions in what you sent. Were these for deleted expletives?  Or a drunken typist typing into the night of ignorance and wishful thinking?

Jim, N0SSM

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:06 AM Mike Morgan <cavecritter@...> wrote:
Ditto, John. Km0mvr
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you John !!!
>
>> On 4/26/20 8:06 PM, Scott Vince wrote:
>> Yes please !
>>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 19:57, John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?
>>>
>>>
>>> John, KC0HSB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
>>>> Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
>>>> regard to internal use of household disinfectants?
>>>>
>>>> Fred AE0FD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
>>>>> CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got this, this morning:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
>>>>> emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
>>>>> drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
>>>>> Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
>>>>> against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
>>>>> The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
>>>>> announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
>>>>> to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
>>>>> distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
>>>>> patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
>>>>> available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
>>>>> hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
>>>>> of chloroquine.â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
>>>>> fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
>>>>> in an effort to combat COVID-19.
>>>>>
>>>>> Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
>>>>> President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
>>>>> permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
>>>>> azithromycin to commence in his state.
>>>>>
>>>>> “Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
>>>>> to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
>>>>> Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
>>>>> “Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
>>>>> clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
>>>>> coronavirus,â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
>>>>> hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
>>>>> drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
>>>>> chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
>>>>> patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
>>>>> hope in combating COVID-19.
>>>>>
>>>>> “The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
>>>>> chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
>>>>> 24 English reported Saturday.
>>>>> “This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
>>>>> for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
>>>>> allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
>>>>> coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
>>>>> France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
>>>>> disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
>>>>> which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
>>>>> with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
>>>>> said.
>>>>> The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
>>>>> “than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
>>>>> they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.
>>>>>
>>>>> *******************************************************************
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
>>>>> To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Some Good News
>>>>>
>>>>> CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:
>>>>>
>>>>> Medical Hope is coming -
>>>>>
>>>>> For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
>>>>> medical solution to the Wuhan Virus.  First
>>>>> on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
>>>>> President's daily update, three days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
>>>>> reporting very positive results.  The study
>>>>> is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
>>>>> treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
>>>>> non-randomized clinical trial."  The combination of both drugs
>>>>> produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
>>>>> to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
>>>>> period.  But the fantastic news is that both
>>>>> drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
>>>>> the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
>>>>> Virus application.  This came up during his press conference, a
>>>>> couple of days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
>>>>> city, and they begin using it today.  We should
>>>>> start hearing results in about one week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
>>>>> critical cases, and last night Laura
>>>>> Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
>>>>> drugs to 350 patients.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
>>>>> and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
>>>>> off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know
>>>>>
>>>>> So, "keep the faith."  Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
>>>>> beat this pandemic.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim (W0TES)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> This message came to you from
>>> John Wesley Smith
>>> kc0hsb@...
>>> Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
>>> https://johnwesleysmith.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

James Whitehill
 

Hi Tim,

That's a long, optimistic article you offer to the club, but I could not see the source of the article.  Did I miss it?  I did not miss all the &*#@! insertions in what you sent. Were these for deleted expletives?  Or a drunken typist typing into the night of ignorance and wishful thinking?

Jim, N0SSM

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:06 AM Mike Morgan <cavecritter@...> wrote:
Ditto, John. Km0mvr
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you John !!!
>
>> On 4/26/20 8:06 PM, Scott Vince wrote:
>> Yes please !
>>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 19:57, John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?
>>>
>>>
>>> John, KC0HSB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
>>>> Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
>>>> regard to internal use of household disinfectants?
>>>>
>>>> Fred AE0FD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
>>>>> CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got this, this morning:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
>>>>> emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
>>>>> drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
>>>>> Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
>>>>> against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
>>>>> The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
>>>>> announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
>>>>> to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
>>>>> distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
>>>>> patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
>>>>> available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
>>>>> hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
>>>>> of chloroquine.â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
>>>>> fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
>>>>> in an effort to combat COVID-19.
>>>>>
>>>>> Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
>>>>> President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
>>>>> permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
>>>>> azithromycin to commence in his state.
>>>>>
>>>>> “Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
>>>>> to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
>>>>> Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
>>>>> “Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
>>>>> clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
>>>>> coronavirus,â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
>>>>> hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
>>>>> drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;
>>>>>
>>>>> The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
>>>>> chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
>>>>> patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
>>>>> hope in combating COVID-19.
>>>>>
>>>>> “The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
>>>>> chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
>>>>> 24 English reported Saturday.
>>>>> “This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
>>>>> for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
>>>>> allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
>>>>> coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
>>>>> France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
>>>>> disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
>>>>> which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
>>>>> with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
>>>>> said.
>>>>> The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
>>>>> “than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
>>>>> they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.
>>>>>
>>>>> *******************************************************************
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
>>>>> To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Some Good News
>>>>>
>>>>> CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:
>>>>>
>>>>> Medical Hope is coming -
>>>>>
>>>>> For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
>>>>> medical solution to the Wuhan Virus.  First
>>>>> on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
>>>>> President's daily update, three days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
>>>>> reporting very positive results.  The study
>>>>> is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
>>>>> treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
>>>>> non-randomized clinical trial."  The combination of both drugs
>>>>> produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
>>>>> to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
>>>>> period.  But the fantastic news is that both
>>>>> drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
>>>>> the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
>>>>> Virus application.  This came up during his press conference, a
>>>>> couple of days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
>>>>> city, and they begin using it today.  We should
>>>>> start hearing results in about one week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
>>>>> critical cases, and last night Laura
>>>>> Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
>>>>> drugs to 350 patients.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
>>>>> and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
>>>>> off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know
>>>>>
>>>>> So, "keep the faith."  Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
>>>>> beat this pandemic.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim (W0TES)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> This message came to you from
>>> John Wesley Smith
>>> kc0hsb@...
>>> Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
>>> https://johnwesleysmith.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

Mike Morgan
 

Ditto, John. Km0mvr

On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:41 PM, Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:

Thank you John !!!

On 4/26/20 8:06 PM, Scott Vince wrote:
Yes please !
On Apr 26, 2020, at 19:57, John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:

Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?


John, KC0HSB



On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
Tim

In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
regard to internal use of household disinfectants?

Fred AE0FD


At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

I just got this, this morning:

On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.

The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
of chloroquine.â€&#65533;

Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
in an effort to combat COVID-19.

Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
azithromycin to commence in his state.

“Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;

On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
“Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
coronavirus,â€&#65533;

Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;

The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
hope in combating COVID-19.

“The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
24 English reported Saturday.
“This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.

The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
said.
The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
“than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.

*******************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
Subject: Re: Some Good News

CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

Medical Hope is coming -

For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
medical solution to the Wuhan Virus. First
on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
President's daily update, three days ago.

The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
reporting very positive results. The study
is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
non-randomized clinical trial." The combination of both drugs
produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
period. But the fantastic news is that both
drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
Virus application. This came up during his press conference, a
couple of days ago.

Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
city, and they begin using it today. We should
start hearing results in about one week.

Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
critical cases, and last night Laura
Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
drugs to 350 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know

So, "keep the faith." Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
beat this pandemic.

73

Tim (W0TES)

--
This message came to you from
John Wesley Smith
kc0hsb@...
Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
https://johnwesleysmith.com/






Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

vellemawm@...
 

I don't comment often but always read the emails. I agree that on subject is good.
That would include Fred's political comments. Don't be an ass, Fred.

Bill




On Apr 26, 2020 23:41, "Henry Taylor" <hank008@...> wrote:
Thank you John !!!

On 4/26/20 8:06 PM, Scott Vince wrote:
> Yes please !
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 19:57, John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:
>>
>> Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?
>>
>>
>> John, KC0HSB
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
>>> Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
>>> regard to internal use of household disinfectants?
>>>
>>> Fred AE0FD
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
>>>> CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:
>>>>
>>>> I just got this, this morning:
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
>>>> emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
>>>> drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
>>>> Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
>>>> against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
>>>> The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
>>>> announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
>>>> to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
>>>> distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
>>>> patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
>>>> available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.
>>>>
>>>> The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
>>>> hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
>>>> of chloroquine.â€&#65533;
>>>>
>>>> Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
>>>> fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
>>>> in an effort to combat COVID-19.
>>>>
>>>> Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
>>>> President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
>>>> permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
>>>> azithromycin to commence in his state.
>>>>
>>>> “Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
>>>> to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;
>>>>
>>>> On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
>>>> Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
>>>> “Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
>>>> clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
>>>> coronavirus,â€&#65533;
>>>>
>>>> Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
>>>> hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
>>>> drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;
>>>>
>>>> The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
>>>> chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
>>>> patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
>>>> hope in combating COVID-19.
>>>>
>>>> “The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
>>>> chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
>>>> 24 English reported Saturday.
>>>> “This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
>>>> for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
>>>> allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
>>>> coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
>>>> France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.
>>>>
>>>> The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
>>>> disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
>>>> which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
>>>> with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
>>>> said.
>>>> The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
>>>> “than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
>>>> they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.
>>>>
>>>> *******************************************************************
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
>>>> To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Some Good News
>>>>
>>>> CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:
>>>>
>>>> Medical Hope is coming -
>>>>
>>>> For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
>>>> medical solution to the Wuhan Virus.  First
>>>> on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
>>>> President's daily update, three days ago.
>>>>
>>>> The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
>>>> reporting very positive results.  The study
>>>> is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
>>>> treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
>>>> non-randomized clinical trial."  The combination of both drugs
>>>> produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
>>>> to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
>>>> period.  But the fantastic news is that both
>>>> drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
>>>> the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
>>>> Virus application.  This came up during his press conference, a
>>>> couple of days ago.
>>>>
>>>> Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
>>>> city, and they begin using it today.  We should
>>>> start hearing results in about one week.
>>>>
>>>> Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
>>>> critical cases, and last night Laura
>>>> Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
>>>> drugs to 350 patients.
>>>>
>>>> Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
>>>> and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
>>>> off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know
>>>>
>>>> So, "keep the faith."  Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
>>>> beat this pandemic.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Tim (W0TES)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> This message came to you from
>> John Wesley Smith
>> kc0hsb@...
>> Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
>> https://johnwesleysmith.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>






Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

Henry Taylor <hank008@...>
 

Thank you John !!!

On 4/26/20 8:06 PM, Scott Vince wrote:
Yes please !
On Apr 26, 2020, at 19:57, John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:

Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?


John, KC0HSB



On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
Tim

In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
regard to internal use of household disinfectants?

Fred AE0FD


At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

I just got this, this morning:

On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.

The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
of chloroquine.â€&#65533;

Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
in an effort to combat COVID-19.

Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
azithromycin to commence in his state.

“Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;

On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
“Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
coronavirus,â€&#65533;

Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;

The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
hope in combating COVID-19.

“The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
24 English reported Saturday.
“This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.

The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
said.
The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
“than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.

*******************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
Subject: Re: Some Good News

CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

Medical Hope is coming -

For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
medical solution to the Wuhan Virus. First
on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
President's daily update, three days ago.

The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
reporting very positive results. The study
is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
non-randomized clinical trial." The combination of both drugs
produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
period. But the fantastic news is that both
drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
Virus application. This came up during his press conference, a
couple of days ago.

Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
city, and they begin using it today. We should
start hearing results in about one week.

Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
critical cases, and last night Laura
Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
drugs to 350 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know

So, "keep the faith." Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
beat this pandemic.

73

Tim (W0TES)

--
This message came to you from
John Wesley Smith
kc0hsb@...
Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
https://johnwesleysmith.com/




Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

Scott Vince
 

Yes please !

On Apr 26, 2020, at 19:57, John W. Smith <kc0hsb@...> wrote:

Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?


John, KC0HSB



On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
Tim

In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
regard to internal use of household disinfectants?

Fred AE0FD


At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

I just got this, this morning:

On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.

The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
of chloroquine.â€&#65533;

Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
in an effort to combat COVID-19.

Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
azithromycin to commence in his state.

“Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;

On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
“Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
coronavirus,â€&#65533;

Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;

The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
hope in combating COVID-19.

“The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
24 English reported Saturday.
“This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.

The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
said.
The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
“than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.

*******************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
Subject: Re: Some Good News

CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

Medical Hope is coming -

For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
medical solution to the Wuhan Virus. First
on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
President's daily update, three days ago.

The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
reporting very positive results. The study
is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
non-randomized clinical trial." The combination of both drugs
produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
period. But the fantastic news is that both
drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
Virus application. This came up during his press conference, a
couple of days ago.

Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
city, and they begin using it today. We should
start hearing results in about one week.

Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
critical cases, and last night Laura
Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
drugs to 350 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know

So, "keep the faith." Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
beat this pandemic.

73

Tim (W0TES)


--
This message came to you from
John Wesley Smith
kc0hsb@...
Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
https://johnwesleysmith.com/




Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

John W. Smith
 

Could we please keep this list on its intended topic of amateur radio?


John, KC0HSB



On 4/26/2020 6:57 PM, Fred Dittrich wrote:
Tim

In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments.
Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with
regard to internal use of household disinfectants?

Fred AE0FD


At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

I just got this, this morning:

On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an
emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine,
drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President
Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight
against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)
announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs
to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be
distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult
patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not
available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.

The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of
hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses
of chloroquine.â€&#65533;

Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to
fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all
in an effort to combat COVID-19.

Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as
President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs,
permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and
azithromycin to commence in his state.

“Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard
to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;

On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive
Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our
“Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from
clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the
coronavirus,â€&#65533;

Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss
hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the
drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;

The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of
chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain
patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest
hope in combating COVID-19.

“The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of
chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France
24 English reported Saturday.
“This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated
for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also
allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with
coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533;
France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.

The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious
disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results,
which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated
with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes
said.
The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster
“than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if
they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.

*******************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
Subject: Re: Some Good News

CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

Medical Hope is coming -

For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a
medical solution to the Wuhan Virus.  First
on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice
President's daily update, three days ago.

The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are
reporting very positive results.  The study
is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a
treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
non-randomized clinical trial."  The combination of both drugs
produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time
period.  But the fantastic news is that both
drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having
the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
Virus application.  This came up during his press conference, a
couple of days ago.

Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York
city, and they begin using it today.  We should
start hearing results in about one week.

Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit
critical cases, and last night Laura
Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned
drugs to 350 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II,
and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know

So, "keep the faith."  Good news is coming soon, and we are going to
beat this pandemic.

73

Tim (W0TES)


--
This message came to you from
John Wesley Smith
kc0hsb@...
Find musings of an eclectic pilgrim at
https://johnwesleysmith.com/


Re: Some Good News from this morning about Hydroxychloroquine.

Fred Dittrich
 

Tim

In this e-mail you promote a particular COVID-19 treatment/treatments. Since you seem to keep up on the subject, what is your advise with regard to internal use of household disinfectants?

Fred AE0FD

At 10:10 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:
CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

I just got this, this morning:

On Sunday night, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, drugs often used to treat malaria and recently touted by President Donald Trump as a possible “game-changerâ€&#65533; in the fight against the China-originated novel coronavirus, or COVID-19.
The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) announced in a statement on Sunday that the FDA will allow the drugs to be “donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalized teen and adult patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible,â€&#65533; a Politico report said.

The statement noted that “Sandoz donated 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to the stockpile and Bayer donated 1 million doses of chloroquine.â€&#65533;

Trump made it clear weeks ago that his administration would work to fast-track promising drugs like hydroxychloroquine with the FDA, all in an effort to combat COVID-19.

Democratic New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is on the same page as President Trump when it comes to the popular anti-malaria drugs, permitting trials of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, and azithromycin to commence in his state.

“Let’s see how it works,â€&#65533; Trump said Sunday, with regard to the New York trials. “It may. It may not.â€&#65533;

On the same day as the FDA authorization, Novartis Chief Executive Vas Narasimhan told a Swiss newspaper that hydroxychloroquine is our “Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the coronavirus,â€&#65533;

Narasimhan told Sonntags Zeitung. “We’re working with Swiss hospitals on possible treatment protocols for the clinical use of the drug, but it’s too early to say anything definitively.â€&#65533;

The French government also cleared a larger pathway for the use of chloroquine this weekend, officially sanctioning the drug for certain patients infected with the novel virus, The Daily Wire noted biggest hope in combating COVID-19.

“The French government has officially sanctioned prescriptions of chloroquine to treat certain coronavirus patients,â€&#65533; France 24 English reported Saturday.
“This ensures continued treatment of patients who have been treated for several years for a chronic condition with this drug, but also allows a temporary authorization to allow certain patients with coronavirus to benefit from this therapeutic route,â€&#65533; France’s director general of health Jérôme Salomon said.

The move from the French government comes on the heels of infectious disease specialist Didier Raoult announcing new clinical results, which can be accessed here, that show 78 out of 80 patients treated with chloroquine recovered within five days, a report from Trustnodes said.
The five-day recovery time is “considerablyâ€&#65533; faster “than the usual 14 days and for some it can go up to 28 days if they recover at all,â€&#65533; Trustnodes added.

*******************************************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim & Susan Spurgeon" <tims173@...>
To: "main" <main@CMRA.groups.io>, "main" <main@bcares.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:45:33 AM
Subject: Re: Some Good News

CMRA and BCARES brothers and sisters:

Medical Hope is coming -

For the past couple of weeks, I have been watching efforts to find a medical solution to the Wuhan Virus. First
on Youtube, then on the news, then it popped up during the Vice President's daily update, three days ago.

The French started a human trial, more than two weeks ago, and are reporting very positive results. The study
is entitled, "Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-pak) as a treatment of Covid-19: results of an open label
non-randomized clinical trial." The combination of both drugs produces 100 percent cure in five days compared
to a control group that was still testing positive over the same time period. But the fantastic news is that both
drugs are already FDA approved, and President Trump is already having the FDA evaluate this for Wuhan
Virus application. This came up during his press conference, a couple of days ago.

Ten thousand units of this drug have already been sent to New York city, and they begin using it today. We should
start hearing results in about one week.

Hydroxychloroquine has already been used in New Orleans to benefit critical cases, and last night Laura
Ingraham interviewed a doctor that has applied the above mentioned drugs to 350 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, developed after WW-II, and it and Azithromycin are cheap,
off patent drugs, whose efficacy and side effects are well know

So, "keep the faith." Good news is coming soon, and we are going to beat this pandemic.

73

Tim (W0TES)


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Corey
 

It’s with great regret the announcement of Bill Wheeler K0DEW is now SK, The Hobby just lost a great man, He will be missed by many. He was an avid collector of Collins gear, DX’er , CW, and digital.  He was one of those go to guys for getting answers to questions not known & he never looked down no matter how dumb it might have been.  I meet him through the Missouri traffic Net some 20 years ago. 
His Ham shack was one only to dream about. Look him up QRZ and you’ll see for yourself the operator he must have been. 

Bill, May you Rest In Peace my friend, Corey


Re: Asymptomatic transmission data

Gary Vaught - W9TIG
 

No offense taken.  I simply misunderstood your use of the gloves.  I have just seen too many reports of folks who are taking ancillary measures rather than the primary recommendations which have been coming out from the CDC for weeks.

Yes, wear the gloves, and the masks, when out in public.  But think about what is happening.  And as you move from location to location, change out the gloves.  This is what health care workers have done for years, moving from patient to patient.  I have had people give me dirty looks and gestures because I pull my mask down while driving in my vehicle, even though I make sure it's covering my mouth and nose when I exit my vehicle.

-
Best Regards,
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:50 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
So change gloves.  Washing hands is good of course but too much washing, especially with harsh soaps, is well known to cause cracking and fissures in the hand skin, providing sanctuaries for the organism, increasing the likelihood of transmission.  This is not theoretical, it is based on actual reported experience.

Furthermore, although transmission can be as you describe, it is much lower risk than fomites (the invisible droplets of saliva that are the inevitable result of merely speaking).  It is mainly a respiratory disease and the wearing of a mask has a much larger hope of reducing transmission. Even a western-style bandana will work for most fomites.  

Please be advised that I applaud your concerns and hand washing advise (in moderation).  I hope I have not offended.  My hope in this email is to provide accurate information leading to effective measures, and also possibly reduce the fear factors that make this pandemic even worse than it would be if we had sufficient data.

We do not.  Extensive testing for both antibodies and antigen (the virus) continue o be woefully inadequate.

Stay well.  And keep calm if possible.

Hank 

泰 勒
大胡子

On Apr 17, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Gary Vaught - W9TIG <gdv.pops@...> wrote:

Gloves should be to prevent cross contamination.  If you wear your gloves to pump gas and touch an infected gas pump nozzle, then wear those same gloves to WalMart, you've just become a transmission vector and spread the disease to anyone who touches the WalMart door handle, shopping cart, whatever you touch with that gloved hand.  And this shows why it is so important to wash our hands and not touch our faces instead of relying on other forms of protection.

-
73,
W9TIG
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:01 AM dooda day <wittend@...> wrote:
Fred,

I believe that that number is similar to  what they have seen in Iceland, where they have a relatively high level of testing in the country's small population.
This is why I wear a mask on the very rare occasions when I go out.  What if I have it and don't know?  

The gloves are for my protection.  The mask is because I don't want to take the chance that I might silently and unknowingly spread  virus to others.

Dave

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:34 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Hi

See: https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

Important point: while over 600 sailors on the Roosevelt tested positive, roughly 60 percent of those testing positive did NOT show any symptoms. This is why wearing a mask protects others.

73

Fred AE0FD


--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


Re: Asymptomatic transmission data

Henry Taylor <hank008@...>
 

So change gloves.  Washing hands is good of course but too much washing, especially with harsh soaps, is well known to cause cracking and fissures in the hand skin, providing sanctuaries for the organism, increasing the likelihood of transmission.  This is not theoretical, it is based on actual reported experience.

Furthermore, although transmission can be as you describe, it is much lower risk than fomites (the invisible droplets of saliva that are the inevitable result of merely speaking).  It is mainly a respiratory disease and the wearing of a mask has a much larger hope of reducing transmission. Even a western-style bandana will work for most fomites.  

Please be advised that I applaud your concerns and hand washing advise (in moderation).  I hope I have not offended.  My hope in this email is to provide accurate information leading to effective measures, and also possibly reduce the fear factors that make this pandemic even worse than it would be if we had sufficient data.

We do not.  Extensive testing for both antibodies and antigen (the virus) continue o be woefully inadequate.

Stay well.  And keep calm if possible.

Hank 

泰 勒
大胡子

On Apr 17, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Gary Vaught - W9TIG <gdv.pops@...> wrote:

Gloves should be to prevent cross contamination.  If you wear your gloves to pump gas and touch an infected gas pump nozzle, then wear those same gloves to WalMart, you've just become a transmission vector and spread the disease to anyone who touches the WalMart door handle, shopping cart, whatever you touch with that gloved hand.  And this shows why it is so important to wash our hands and not touch our faces instead of relying on other forms of protection.

-
73,
W9TIG
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:01 AM dooda day <wittend@...> wrote:
Fred,

I believe that that number is similar to  what they have seen in Iceland, where they have a relatively high level of testing in the country's small population.
This is why I wear a mask on the very rare occasions when I go out.  What if I have it and don't know?  

The gloves are for my protection.  The mask is because I don't want to take the chance that I might silently and unknowingly spread  virus to others.

Dave

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:34 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Hi

See: https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

Important point: while over 600 sailors on the Roosevelt tested positive, roughly 60 percent of those testing positive did NOT show any symptoms. This is why wearing a mask protects others.

73

Fred AE0FD


--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


Re: Asymptomatic transmission data

Gary Vaught - W9TIG
 

Gloves should be to prevent cross contamination.  If you wear your gloves to pump gas and touch an infected gas pump nozzle, then wear those same gloves to WalMart, you've just become a transmission vector and spread the disease to anyone who touches the WalMart door handle, shopping cart, whatever you touch with that gloved hand.  And this shows why it is so important to wash our hands and not touch our faces instead of relying on other forms of protection.

-
73,
W9TIG
Gary D Vaught

We can engineer a solution to nearly any problem you can accurately define.

- somewhat anonymous



On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:01 AM dooda day <wittend@...> wrote:
Fred,

I believe that that number is similar to  what they have seen in Iceland, where they have a relatively high level of testing in the country's small population.
This is why I wear a mask on the very rare occasions when I go out.  What if I have it and don't know?  

The gloves are for my protection.  The mask is because I don't want to take the chance that I might silently and unknowingly spread  virus to others.

Dave

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:34 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Hi

See: https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

Important point: while over 600 sailors on the Roosevelt tested positive, roughly 60 percent of those testing positive did NOT show any symptoms. This is why wearing a mask protects others.

73

Fred AE0FD


--
73
W9TIG

Gary Vaught


Re: Asymptomatic transmission data

dooda day
 

Fred,

I believe that that number is similar to  what they have seen in Iceland, where they have a relatively high level of testing in the country's small population.
This is why I wear a mask on the very rare occasions when I go out.  What if I have it and don't know?  

The gloves are for my protection.  The mask is because I don't want to take the chance that I might silently and unknowingly spread  virus to others.

Dave

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:34 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Hi

See: https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

Important point: while over 600 sailors on the Roosevelt tested positive, roughly 60 percent of those testing positive did NOT show any symptoms. This is why wearing a mask protects others.

73

Fred AE0FD


Asymptomatic transmission data

Fred Dittrich
 

Hi

See: https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

Important point: while over 600 sailors on the Roosevelt tested positive, roughly 60 percent of those testing positive did NOT show any symptoms. This is why wearing a mask protects others.

73

Fred AE0FD


Re: 10m is open

Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...>
 

Yes, XE2X is booming in on 50.099 right now. 

73 de Bryan, k0emt 


On Apr 15, 2020, at 18:38, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:


Thanks John, and Brian,
also made a contact on 6M FT8
bill

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:26 PM John Beatty <jebeatty@...> wrote:
Yes it is!  Working many stations on Cw, ft8 freq is strong


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Subject: [CMRA] 10m is open
 
Worked NY w CW at lunch. Hearing TX booming in CW beacon and phone stations strong too.

73 de Bryan, k0emt





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Bill N0AXZ


Re: 10m is open

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Thanks John, and Brian,
also made a contact on 6M FT8
bill

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:26 PM John Beatty <jebeatty@...> wrote:
Yes it is!  Working many stations on Cw, ft8 freq is strong


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 6:16:14 PM
To: cmra@groups.io <cmra@groups.io>
Subject: [CMRA] 10m is open
 
Worked NY w CW at lunch. Hearing TX booming in CW beacon and phone stations strong too.

73 de Bryan, k0emt





--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: 10m is open

John Beatty
 

Yes it is!  Working many stations on Cw, ft8 freq is strong


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 6:16:14 PM
To: cmra@groups.io <cmra@groups.io>
Subject: [CMRA] 10m is open
 
Worked NY w CW at lunch. Hearing TX booming in CW beacon and phone stations strong too.

73 de Bryan, k0emt




10m is open

Bryan Nehl <k0emt@...>
 

Worked NY w CW at lunch. Hearing TX booming in CW beacon and phone stations strong too.

73 de Bryan, k0emt