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Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Henry Taylor <hank008@...>
 

The point of testing is that the positives stay away.  Half or more of positives don't know they are, and feel fine.  

It's an individual choice, not a policy.

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:

Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

John Beatty
 

Good points all.  I struggled but I think I'm going to operate from home this year.  Thanks for spinning up the discussion Chris.
John - NO0I

On May 15, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor < hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard < wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher < Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

" 2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as a ll bands 50 MHz and above, and i n doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal co nditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges o f emergency preparedness as well as to acquai nt the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Chris Swisher
 

Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Henry Taylor <hank008@...>
 

Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Go where Fred? :)


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:16 PM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Bill

I'm planning to go.

73

Fred AE0FD


At 12:03 PM 5/15/2020, you wrote:
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss.Â

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdfÂ

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ



--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Ralph Howard
 

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Fred Dittrich
 

Bill

I'm planning to go.

73

Fred AE0FD


At 12:03 PM 5/15/2020, you wrote:
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss.Â

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdfÂ

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




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Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




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Bill N0AXZ


CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Chris Swisher
 

I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee



Re: K0SI-10 down

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

K0SI-10 should be up now on Windows10.:)
Bill

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Bill

Thanks

Fred


At 08:12 AM 5/15/2020, you wrote:
Windows 10 upgrade going on. Should be back up later this morning
bill N0AXZ

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:08 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
*** Starting to call K0SI-10
*** Opening serial port COM9; 9600 baud; Kantronics
*** Connecting to K0SI-10
*** CONNECTED TO K0SI-10

ÀC10INTÀÀqÀÀÿÀ

*** Forced disconnect
*** Disconnected at 2020/05/15 13:05:41

*** Disconnect reported.


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73

Fred AE0FD






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Bill


Re: K0SI-10 down

Fred Dittrich
 

Bill

Thanks

Fred


At 08:12 AM 5/15/2020, you wrote:
Windows 10 upgrade going on. Should be back up later this morning
bill N0AXZ

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:08 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
*** Starting to call K0SI-10
*** Opening serial port COM9; 9600 baud; Kantronics
*** Connecting to K0SI-10
*** CONNECTED TO K0SI-10

ÀC10INTÀÀqÀÀÿÀ

*** Forced disconnect
*** Disconnected at 2020/05/15 13:05:41

*** Disconnect reported.


---------------

73

Fred AE0FD






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Bill N0AXZ


Re: K0SI-10 down

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Windows 10 upgrade going on. Should be back up later this morning
bill N0AXZ

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:08 AM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
*** Starting to call K0SI-10
*** Opening serial port COM9; 9600 baud; Kantronics
*** Connecting to K0SI-10
*** CONNECTED TO K0SI-10

ÀC10INTÀÀqÀÀÿÀ

*** Forced disconnect
*** Disconnected at 2020/05/15 13:05:41

*** Disconnect reported.


---------------

73

Fred AE0FD






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Bill N0AXZ


K0SI-10 down

Fred Dittrich
 

*** Starting to call K0SI-10
*** Opening serial port COM9; 9600 baud; Kantronics
*** Connecting to K0SI-10
*** CONNECTED TO K0SI-10

ÀC10INTÀÀqÀÀÿÀ

*** Forced disconnect
*** Disconnected at 2020/05/15 13:05:41

*** Disconnect reported.


---------------

73

Fred AE0FD


Re: DMR HTs

Ralph Howard
 

In WW2 portable radios were huge.  Back packs even.  They were called Walkie Talkies because you could sort of walk with one.  Later came the lunchbox size so you could still ealk snd talk.  Handi talkies because you could hold one in your hand.  My first was a Motorola HT 200.  About size and wright of a brick.
Cheers.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Jon Cole via groups.io <colepls@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:52:27 AM
To: main@cmra.groups.io <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] DMR HTs
 
That is not a stupid question. It refers to some history of radio. HT is short for “handy talkie”.  If memory serves me, it was part of a sales pitch for handheld radios when they first became practical and the name stuck. Some of the others may know more details.  

Jon Cole, N0OFJ 

On May 13, 2020, at 10:06 AM, silveyd@... wrote:

HT = a handheld transmitter? (Sorry if that is a really stupid question)


Re: DMR HTs

Jon Cole
 

That is not a stupid question. It refers to some history of radio. HT is short for “handy talkie”.  If memory serves me, it was part of a sales pitch for handheld radios when they first became practical and the name stuck. Some of the others may know more details.  

Jon Cole, N0OFJ 

On May 13, 2020, at 10:06 AM, silveyd@... wrote:

HT = a handheld transmitter? (Sorry if that is a really stupid question)


Re: DMR HTs

silveyd@...
 

HT = a handheld transmitter? (Sorry if that is a really stupid question)


Re: Winlink Wednesdays

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Start tomorrow


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:47 AM Ernest Shaw <ernestcshaw@...> wrote:
I can do that.  We starting tomorrow?

73,
KC0EZE

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:05 PM Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:
Group,
Have you heard of Winlink Wednesdays?
I find that it has been going on for several years in some places. I thought we should try it our for our would be Winlink users.

It's purpose is to give the Winlink user a chance to practice and keep your Winlink operation going. If you are like me, I forget how to do something when I don't do it after a time (like a couple of days sometimes). Winlink Express software is updated regularly and the forms in the Templates section are updated often. You have to open Winlink Express to get these updates.

So I am asking the Winlink users to "check-in" to the Winlink Wednesday net with WX0BC.  That means for you to send a Winlink message to WX0BC, any time on Wednesday. The message should be the Winlink Check-in form found under Templates: Standard: General:. 

You can send the message anyway you like to get to the Winlink system. Locally, we have K0SI-10 (VHF-Packet), or on HF (K0SI 80M or 40M Ardop), or you can use any RMS gateway you can get to. And if you have trouble getting the message out RF, you can even use Telnet. Just address it to WX0BC.

On Thursday I will send a summary of our check-ins to the those whose check-ins I received at WX0BC. Some Winlink Wednesday nets have grown to more than 100 check-ins. I am NOT wanting that, just get the Central Missouri Winlnk users a chance to practice, so if we get a disaster that asks us to send data via Winlink we will be ready.
Thanks,\73,
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Bill N0AXZ


Re: Winlink Wednesdays

KC0EZE Ernest Shaw
 

I can do that.  We starting tomorrow?

73,
KC0EZE

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:05 PM Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:
Group,
Have you heard of Winlink Wednesdays?
I find that it has been going on for several years in some places. I thought we should try it our for our would be Winlink users.

It's purpose is to give the Winlink user a chance to practice and keep your Winlink operation going. If you are like me, I forget how to do something when I don't do it after a time (like a couple of days sometimes). Winlink Express software is updated regularly and the forms in the Templates section are updated often. You have to open Winlink Express to get these updates.

So I am asking the Winlink users to "check-in" to the Winlink Wednesday net with WX0BC.  That means for you to send a Winlink message to WX0BC, any time on Wednesday. The message should be the Winlink Check-in form found under Templates: Standard: General:. 

You can send the message anyway you like to get to the Winlink system. Locally, we have K0SI-10 (VHF-Packet), or on HF (K0SI 80M or 40M Ardop), or you can use any RMS gateway you can get to. And if you have trouble getting the message out RF, you can even use Telnet. Just address it to WX0BC.

On Thursday I will send a summary of our check-ins to the those whose check-ins I received at WX0BC. Some Winlink Wednesday nets have grown to more than 100 check-ins. I am NOT wanting that, just get the Central Missouri Winlnk users a chance to practice, so if we get a disaster that asks us to send data via Winlink we will be ready.
Thanks,\73,
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Bill N0AXZ


Re: DMR HTs

KC0EZE Ernest Shaw
 

How mnay HT's should I have?  I am currently at 4. I feel like I need a few more.  I will be on the DMR net Wednesday. 

73,
KC0EZE


On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:
So, Gary has asked how many HTs you have. I ask (rhetorically), "Would you like to pick up that DMR HT Wednesday after the CMRA net, and check in to the DMR net to see it that HT still works on DMR? 

We are on our local repeater on TG2 (Local 2). Just for fun.

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Bill N0AXZ


DMR HTs

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

So, Gary has asked how many HTs you have. I ask (rhetorically), "Would you like to pick up that DMR HT Wednesday after the CMRA net, and check in to the DMR net to see it that HT still works on DMR? 

We are on our local repeater on TG2 (Local 2). Just for fun.

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Bill N0AXZ

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