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Re: Field Day update

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Got it Paul. More info to come. 

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 1:50 PM paul watt <pbw65@...> wrote:
Bill since I've been licensed this is the first field day that I will be in town for!  Yeehaa count me in. :)
Thanks,
Paul KE0IKG

On May 22, 2020 13:26, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:
Group,

Even though I think we only have seen 3 people respond to the previous call for participation that hadn't decided to operate from home, some FD planning continues:

I talked with the Superintendent at Rock Bridge State Park, and she said as far as they were concerned we could use the park as reserved constrained to the then local restrictions. I believe that currently that would mean one wave length at 144 MHz, (approximately 2 Meters), masks, and no more than 10 in one group. An issue she said we might have is that since they recently opened the park, they have had droves of people out on the weekends and the parking lots were full to running over on Saturdays! Who knows what that might be like on June 27?

So K0PHP has proposed that he bring the KOMU-TV truck equipped with big mast and 6 KW generator. (It needs some exercising). We don't believe we should bring out the trailer. We could put up a couple canopies on either side of the truck and run two stations for K0SI Field Day - 2020. Not enough room to run a station inside the truck.

Anyone wishing to bring their own go-kit and operate some distance from the TV truck would be welcome, and just use your own call sign, TV truck could supply you AC, with your long extension cord.

We could have pizza delivered to the crew, and wrap up about dark.

Comments???

-- 
Bill N0AXZ

--
Bill


Re: Field Day update

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Ok Richard thanks. More to come about both days. 
Bill

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 2:16 PM Hillman, Richard E. <hillmanr@...> wrote:
My plans have changed mightily with cancellations so I will be here for field day and Red Cross day too.  Let me know if I can help.

Richard AC0MP

On May 22, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:


Group,

Even though I think we only have seen 3 people respond to the previous call for participation that hadn't decided to operate from home, some FD planning continues:

I talked with the Superintendent at Rock Bridge State Park, and she said as far as they were concerned we could use the park as reserved constrained to the then local restrictions. I believe that currently that would mean one wave length at 144 MHz, (approximately 2 Meters), masks, and no more than 10 in one group. An issue she said we might have is that since they recently opened the park, they have had droves of people out on the weekends and the parking lots were full to running over on Saturdays! Who knows what that might be like on June 27?

So K0PHP has proposed that he bring the KOMU-TV truck equipped with big mast and 6 KW generator. (It needs some exercising). We don't believe we should bring out the trailer. We could put up a couple canopies on either side of the truck and run two stations for K0SI Field Day - 2020. Not enough room to run a station inside the truck.

Anyone wishing to bring their own go-kit and operate some distance from the TV truck would be welcome, and just use your own call sign, TV truck could supply you AC, with your long extension cord.

We could have pizza delivered to the crew, and wrap up about dark.

Comments???

-- 
Bill N0AXZ

--
Bill


Re: Field Day update

Hillman, Richard E.
 

My plans have changed mightily with cancellations so I will be here for field day and Red Cross day too.  Let me know if I can help.

Richard AC0MP

On May 22, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:


Group,

Even though I think we only have seen 3 people respond to the previous call for participation that hadn't decided to operate from home, some FD planning continues:

I talked with the Superintendent at Rock Bridge State Park, and she said as far as they were concerned we could use the park as reserved constrained to the then local restrictions. I believe that currently that would mean one wave length at 144 MHz, (approximately 2 Meters), masks, and no more than 10 in one group. An issue she said we might have is that since they recently opened the park, they have had droves of people out on the weekends and the parking lots were full to running over on Saturdays! Who knows what that might be like on June 27?

So K0PHP has proposed that he bring the KOMU-TV truck equipped with big mast and 6 KW generator. (It needs some exercising). We don't believe we should bring out the trailer. We could put up a couple canopies on either side of the truck and run two stations for K0SI Field Day - 2020. Not enough room to run a station inside the truck.

Anyone wishing to bring their own go-kit and operate some distance from the TV truck would be welcome, and just use your own call sign, TV truck could supply you AC, with your long extension cord.

We could have pizza delivered to the crew, and wrap up about dark.

Comments???

-- 
Bill N0AXZ


Re: Field Day update

paul watt
 

Bill since I've been licensed this is the first field day that I will be in town for!  Yeehaa count me in. :)
Thanks,
Paul KE0IKG

On May 22, 2020 13:26, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...> wrote:
Group,

Even though I think we only have seen 3 people respond to the previous call for participation that hadn't decided to operate from home, some FD planning continues:

I talked with the Superintendent at Rock Bridge State Park, and she said as far as they were concerned we could use the park as reserved constrained to the then local restrictions. I believe that currently that would mean one wave length at 144 MHz, (approximately 2 Meters), masks, and no more than 10 in one group. An issue she said we might have is that since they recently opened the park, they have had droves of people out on the weekends and the parking lots were full to running over on Saturdays! Who knows what that might be like on June 27?

So K0PHP has proposed that he bring the KOMU-TV truck equipped with big mast and 6 KW generator. (It needs some exercising). We don't believe we should bring out the trailer. We could put up a couple canopies on either side of the truck and run two stations for K0SI Field Day - 2020. Not enough room to run a station inside the truck.

Anyone wishing to bring their own go-kit and operate some distance from the TV truck would be welcome, and just use your own call sign, TV truck could supply you AC, with your long extension cord.

We could have pizza delivered to the crew, and wrap up about dark.

Comments???

-- 
Bill N0AXZ


Field Day update

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Group,

Even though I think we only have seen 3 people respond to the previous call for participation that hadn't decided to operate from home, some FD planning continues:

I talked with the Superintendent at Rock Bridge State Park, and she said as far as they were concerned we could use the park as reserved constrained to the then local restrictions. I believe that currently that would mean one wave length at 144 MHz, (approximately 2 Meters), masks, and no more than 10 in one group. An issue she said we might have is that since they recently opened the park, they have had droves of people out on the weekends and the parking lots were full to running over on Saturdays! Who knows what that might be like on June 27?

So K0PHP has proposed that he bring the KOMU-TV truck equipped with big mast and 6 KW generator. (It needs some exercising). We don't believe we should bring out the trailer. We could put up a couple canopies on either side of the truck and run two stations for K0SI Field Day - 2020. Not enough room to run a station inside the truck.

Anyone wishing to bring their own go-kit and operate some distance from the TV truck would be welcome, and just use your own call sign, TV truck could supply you AC, with your long extension cord.

We could have pizza delivered to the crew, and wrap up about dark.

Comments???

-- 
Bill N0AXZ


Two interesting topics on Ham Nation 454 podcast

Fred Dittrich
 

All

See: https://twit.tv/shows/ham-nation/episodes/454?autostart=false

1) There is a group of VE's who are already doing remote license testing today.

2) For the electronic and mechanical engineering geeks, a group of hams under the guidance of an anesthesiologist has designed and submitted to the FDA a $400 ventilator design using parts from car parts stores and home improvement stores. Being more EE's than ME's they modeled the process electronically vs. mechanically.

73

Fred AE0FD


Re: A Suggested VE Test Session in the Age of COVID-19

Chris Swisher
 

Looks good! Corey has a point. For example, car keys and cell phone/electronic devices on the dashboard, only 1 person per vehicle, etc.

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 8:21 AM Jon Cole via groups.io <colepls=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
My idea is that the runner and VEs can patrol during the exam. 

Jon Cole

On May 20, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Corey <kc0yns@...> wrote:

John, WOW that’s a lot of work. Hopefully it’ll only be necessary for a couple sessions.   Making passengers take a walk keeps the person testing from getting answers,  How are you going to keep Siri from helping? It’s a shame people would go that far to pass an exam.  Good luck John and the VE’s in staying safe while continuing on with testing.      Corey 

Corey Mesenbrink KC0YNS
RRI. Radio Relay International 
Assistant EC for Boone County Mo.
Missouri Traffic Net 3.963
ARRL, ORS, OES, NTS, 




On May 20, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Jon Cole via groups.io <colepls=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Hello all,

Give this a read and tell me what you think.  It will take some teamwork to pull off, but I think we are capable of doing this.

Jon Cole, N0OFJ
VE Liaison
<VE-Test-Procedure-In-Coronavirus-Times.docx>


Re: A Suggested VE Test Session in the Age of COVID-19

Jon Cole
 

My idea is that the runner and VEs can patrol during the exam. 

Jon Cole

On May 20, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Corey <kc0yns@...> wrote:

John, WOW that’s a lot of work. Hopefully it’ll only be necessary for a couple sessions.   Making passengers take a walk keeps the person testing from getting answers,  How are you going to keep Siri from helping? It’s a shame people would go that far to pass an exam.  Good luck John and the VE’s in staying safe while continuing on with testing.      Corey 

Corey Mesenbrink KC0YNS
RRI. Radio Relay International 
Assistant EC for Boone County Mo.
Missouri Traffic Net 3.963
ARRL, ORS, OES, NTS, 




On May 20, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Jon Cole via groups.io <colepls@...> wrote:


Hello all,

Give this a read and tell me what you think.  It will take some teamwork to pull off, but I think we are capable of doing this.

Jon Cole, N0OFJ
VE Liaison
<VE-Test-Procedure-In-Coronavirus-Times.docx>


Re: A Suggested VE Test Session in the Age of COVID-19

Corey
 

John, WOW that’s a lot of work. Hopefully it’ll only be necessary for a couple sessions.   Making passengers take a walk keeps the person testing from getting answers,  How are you going to keep Siri from helping? It’s a shame people would go that far to pass an exam.  Good luck John and the VE’s in staying safe while continuing on with testing.      Corey 

Corey Mesenbrink KC0YNS
RRI. Radio Relay International 
Assistant EC for Boone County Mo.
Missouri Traffic Net 3.963
ARRL, ORS, OES, NTS, 




On May 20, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Jon Cole via groups.io <colepls@...> wrote:


Hello all,

Give this a read and tell me what you think.  It will take some teamwork to pull off, but I think we are capable of doing this.

Jon Cole, N0OFJ
VE Liaison
<VE-Test-Procedure-In-Coronavirus-Times.docx>


A Suggested VE Test Session in the Age of COVID-19

Jon Cole
 

Hello all,

Give this a read and tell me what you think.  It will take some teamwork to pull off, but I think we are capable of doing this.

Jon Cole, N0OFJ
VE Liaison


Re: I am interested in testing, KE0ZZA

AD0UK
 

James,

  Thanks for the offer, I will discuss it with the board/officers - this sounds like a good interim fix and could prove to be an avenue to utilize until we can find a more permanent solution.  I will get back with you and let you know.  Much Appreciated.


73
Brian
ADØUK


On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:52 PM James Wiles <wilesjw@...> wrote:
So Brain AD0UK, I eavesdropped on  a conversation about testing possibly doing it outside with tables in a parking lot or have folks stay in their car as an option.  I attend the Salvation Army Church, 1108 W. Ash in Columbia, and have keys to the place. Several options, one is we have a room we could use, or the parking lot, tables, chairs And setup available, for no fee.  Space can be used for meetings (until the other site is available) and or testing.  An Option and for thought.




Re: I am interested in testing, KE0ZZA

James Wiles
 

So Brain AD0UK, I eavesdropped on a conversation about testing possibly doing it outside with tables in a parking lot or have folks stay in their car as an option. I attend the Salvation Army Church, 1108 W. Ash in Columbia, and have keys to the place. Several options, one is we have a room we could use, or the parking lot, tables, chairs And setup available, for no fee. Space can be used for meetings (until the other site is available) and or testing. An Option and for thought.


Re: I am interested in testing, KE0ZZA

AD0UK
 

James,

  We are still discussing the options for testing - please watch the CMRA website - https://k0si.net/ for any updates on location and timing of testing.  We are also wanting to get back to testing, but have unplanned limitations to overcome.  We hope to get back at it as soon as we can!!!


Thanks for the patience, look forward to testing you!!

73

Brian
ADØUK


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:53 PM James Wiles <wilesjw@...> wrote:
Was assuming testing wouldn’t be till June, is the date June 16th, the third Tuesday




I am interested in testing, KE0ZZA

James Wiles
 

Was assuming testing wouldn’t be till June, is the date June 16th, the third Tuesday


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

James Whitehill
 

A good discussion is underway, thanks to all for thinking hypothetically and conditionally.  We have time to sort options out.

 Like John, NO0I, I am strongly inclined to do a stay at home FD.  I have been putting together all of this year a portable station, centered on getting 2 masts for antennas, one of which is 20+ ft extending out of my trailer hitch, the other is a little shorter, on a tripod.  My plan is to operate battery power and CW QRP, from the driveway, setting the rig in the garage or in the car.  I will try this out beforehand in a couple of June QSO parties, using simple, rotatable antennas up 25 ft.  for 40M and 20M.  (Not my regular home antennas) Hopefully they will do the job.  I plan to use N3FJP FD logging software, but N1MM+ is good also.

My suggestion, for discussion, is to plan an intra-club  "competition" in a quasi-contest format.   Here goes: QRP or100 watts...CW, ssb, or digital (choose your ONE favorite mode).  Score is number of QSOs X ARRL sections.  We could operate just Saturday, and meet on 76 machine Sunday at 7 p.m. to share results or post scores to the 3830 reflector  Criteria beyond these could be decided by those interested: RF output power limits or power categories, common time limits (e.g. 6 hours), power source categories, (battery, other non-commercial, or commercial), etc. 

It would more fun if each RF power category and mode had more than one entrant, I think.  Should VHF/UHF bands also be used along with HF (but not repeaters)?  

I wonder, Bill, if ARRL is thinking of a "distributed" club operation option, where we wouenter our separate logs, but indicate CMRA as our club?  Is there a point or purpose to proposing that option? 

Jim, N0SSM





On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 6:57 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
The point of testing is that the positives stay away.  Half or more of positives don't know they are, and feel fine.  

It's an individual choice, not a policy.

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:

Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Henry Taylor <hank008@...>
 

The point of testing is that the positives stay away.  Half or more of positives don't know they are, and feel fine.  

It's an individual choice, not a policy.

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:

Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




--
Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

John Beatty
 

Good points all.  I struggled but I think I'm going to operate from home this year.  Thanks for spinning up the discussion Chris.
John - NO0I

On May 15, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor < hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard < wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher < Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

" 2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as a ll bands 50 MHz and above, and i n doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal co nditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges o f emergency preparedness as well as to acquai nt the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




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Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Chris Swisher
 

Bill has a nice point. How many want to participate? Let's figure out if FD can happen with a plan. If we have a big group, but only three operating stations, how could we schedule operators to keep the transmitters hot? Ralph suggests we bring our own station for FD, and limit cross contamination that way. Fred is in. Hank, I'm not sure what testing will help us with, other than having people stay home, and that the tests would have to be repeated just before FD. Hopefully everyone is taking their temperatures daily, washing their hands and providing safe distances from others. Bear in mind, any plan will change many times between now and then. We want to avoid having everyone there at the beginning, and no one there overnight. This operation reinforces the need to "spread ourselves out" both physically and operationally. And SAFETY of our members is the highest priority.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:32 PM Henry Taylor <hank008@...> wrote:
Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




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Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Henry Taylor <hank008@...>
 

Anybody interested in getting tested, beforehand ?

泰 勒
大胡子

On May 15, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

As I am not sure what the club will do and a big meal is out.  My field radio is the FT 817.  I have a pop up shelter and a big tent, batteries and a solar pannel.
I am open to what the club wants.  But if we do a 'operate together but separately.' ...

We are thinking of a backyard field day.  I want to run QRP, solar charged battery, digital.   Oh I have room for another QRP station.  If anybody wants to join me.  That battery will run several QRP rigs.  No neighbors no electrical noise.


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Bill McFarland - N0AXZ <billmcfarland10@...>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:58 PM
To: Central Missouri Radio Association <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread
 
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss. 

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdf 

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




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Bill N0AXZ


Re: CMRA Field Day 2020 Discussion Thread

Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Go where Fred? :)


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:16 PM Fred Dittrich <fdittric@...> wrote:
Bill

I'm planning to go.

73

Fred AE0FD


At 12:03 PM 5/15/2020, you wrote:
Chris, et al.,
I appreciate the discussion thread. From the PIO teleconference you invited me to, I am glad to see many other clubs discussing the same issues we have. The memorable statement from one of the attendees was "most of our club is over 70, and I would not want to see FD cause one of them to get the virus and die".
Also another said "our club is not really about making contacts on Field Day, but really enjoys to camaraderie of the event, and a couple of beers".

ARRL made it clear that they don't think Field Day should take place as usual, but that clubs need to comply with local directions. Interaction with the public seems unlikely.

I just called Rock Bridge State Park, and they are open. Our reservation is still valid. There will be new guide lines coming out next week, and Sara will call me to discuss.Â

I think the first thing we need to do is get a read on how many of us want to participate in some kind of club activity around Field day. If there is only 5, we have a plan, if there is 35, we need a plan.

Bill N0AXZ


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:16 AM Chris Swisher <Komu8ce@...> wrote:
I would like to start a on-line discussion of thoughts and dialog on what we can do or want to do for Field Day this year. It is not a normal environment to exercise in (notice I did not say contest), and changes are obviously in order from last year and years prior. This discussion is meant to bring together those thoughts and comments that may seem trivial or silly that are deemed not worthy of repeater time during the club meetings on the air. There are no stupid ideas here, in other words.

The ARRL establishes the goal of the weekend of June 27-28, 2020 from the rules, located at: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/1_61-2020%20Rules.pdfÂ

"2. Object: To work as many stations as possible on the 160, 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 Meter HF bands, as well as all bands 50 MHz and above, and in doing so to learn to operate in abnormal situations in less than optimal conditions. A premium is placed on developing skills to meet the challenges of emergency preparedness as well as to acquaint the general public with the capabilities of Amateur Radio."

What is "abnormal" in this years' operation? An emergency. A nasty virus that prevents us from getting within 6 feet of one another and having those  collaborative moments of learning what makes a band pass filter work, or how to clear some rust from a generator carburetor. Not being able to invite large groups of the public to get hands-on demonstrations of a transceiver. Not cramping four guys in an enclosed trailer for 26 hours.

What is normal about this years' operation? Finding creative solutions to common problems that we might find during an emergency. Actually learning how to adapt and overcome. Obtaining useful skills and learning from others how to build a better operation, should we be individually needed.

Am I saying that we have to do a full blown Field Day? No. Some of the activities are just too much work to render safe for the group. Examples I would give are an operator and logger sitting elbow to elbow in a trailer. Could the same be accomplished in a pop-up tent with 6 feet of separation? I think it is possible. Or maybe an operator doing their own logging. Wireless networking helps a great deal, as does interfacing the logging software to the radio. Automatic dupe checking is a miracle in itself.

Is a basic 3A operation that concentrates on CW, SSB and digital in tents a possibility?

I look forward to the discussion.

Chris K0PHP
CMRA PIO/Trustee




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