Winlink exercises


Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:

Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:

Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/mobilinkd/about/

If you are on facebook.  Also there is a U tube.
73


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:32:06 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!  
I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
Your homwork.
Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC?  There is a utility you can download.  Then you can set various paramters.
Then make sure you cable is wired correctly.  Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.

73
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ryan Raney
 

Sign me up Bill! I've got winlink VHF capability in the mobile now so I'm willing to test sending from various locations if that helps. I may be able to do HF portable winlink as well just for fun. 


On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 8:14 AM Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:
Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!  
I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
Your homwork.
Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC?  There is a utility you can download.  Then you can set various paramters.
Then make sure you cable is wired correctly.  Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.

73
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

Ryan,

What hardware are you using for portable Winlink? What I have doesn't seem to work at all and I suspect I need to get different equipment.

Thanks,

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 9:26 AM, Ryan Raney wrote:

Sign me up Bill! I've got winlink VHF capability in the mobile now so I'm willing to test sending from various locations if that helps. I may be able to do HF portable winlink as well just for fun. 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 8:14 AM Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:
Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!  
I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
Your homwork.
Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC?  There is a utility you can download.  Then you can set various paramters.
Then make sure you cable is wired correctly.  Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.

73
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

My laptop is paired with BLuetooth to the Mobilinkd TNC, and shows Connected when Winlink is on. I can see the lights on the TNC blinking as if it is attempting to transmit. I pulled out a multi meter and mapped the cable connections from the TNC to the radio. Now, when I get a little time, I will research what the connections should be and see if my cable is wired properly. Also, looking for a ferrite to put on the cable. I'll bring my laptop, radio and TNC on Tuesday.

73s Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 8:14 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!  
I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
Your homwork.
Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC?  There is a utility you can download.  Then you can set various paramters.
Then make sure you cable is wired correctly.  Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.

73
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Bill McFarland - N0AXZ
 

Thanks Ryan. We will include mobile and HF play before we are finished. If we ever get finished :)
Bill

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 9:29 AM Ryan Raney <ryanraney@...> wrote:
Sign me up Bill! I've got winlink VHF capability in the mobile now so I'm willing to test sending from various locations if that helps. I may be able to do HF portable winlink as well just for fun. 

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 8:14 AM Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:
Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!  
I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
Your homwork.
Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC?  There is a utility you can download.  Then you can set various paramters.
Then make sure you cable is wired correctly.  Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.

73
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ

--
Bill


Ryan Raney
 

Hi Bob,

I've had success using the bluetooth KISS TNC built into my kenwood
TH-D74 with Windows10 and Android. These radios have gotten overpriced
since they were discontinued so I wouldn't recommend buying one right
now.

I bought and built an EasyDigi (
https://www.ebay.com/sch/cliffordwareham/m.html? ) that I can plug
into a Baofeng or the Kenwood to use VaraFM. I hear there are better
soundcard interfaces for licensed Vara use but I haven't forked over
the money for that license yet.

In the mobile I use a Yaesu FT8800R with a SignalinkUSB connected to
the data port and UZ7HO's SoundModem application for packet and Vara
FM for Vara FM.

For portable HF Winlink i've used a Xiegu X108g with a SignaLink USB
and the previously mentioned applications. I do not recommend this
radio unless you get it for a very good price. I'll probably just lug
the IC7200 around if I try HF portable winlinke for this exercise.

Hopefully the guys can get your setup sorted at that meeting.

73's KE5SUI

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 9:50 AM Boback <RNAckerman@...> wrote:

Ryan,

What hardware are you using for portable Winlink? What I have doesn't seem to work at all and I suspect I need to get different equipment.

Thanks,

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 9:26 AM, Ryan Raney wrote:

Sign me up Bill! I've got winlink VHF capability in the mobile now so I'm willing to test sending from various locations if that helps. I may be able to do HF portable winlink as well just for fun.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 8:14 AM Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:

Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!
I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
Your homwork.
Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC? There is a utility you can download. Then you can set various paramters.
Then make sure you cable is wired correctly. Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.

73
Ralph

Get Outlook for Android
________________________________
From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises


I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable. I would suggest to buzz the cable. Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go. I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that. That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng. I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph

Get Outlook for Android
________________________________
From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises


The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

Can you transmit the test tones? Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect? A second radio helps here. You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops. That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode. Mine never makes the shift. Shifting gears is my term. If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable. If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph


Get Outlook for Android
________________________________
From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises


I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC. Mine is an early model. It does not like Winlink. Is OK for APRS. And for normal packet radio. At least that is what the manufacture told me. He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID. I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN

Get Outlook for Android
________________________________
From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises


I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:

Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent.

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play.

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

My normal setup is a ft-817.  Buxcom sound card interface. Dumb cheep sound card.  Software TNC, and all the other soundcard modes.  Fits in backpack.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Ryan Raney <ryanraney@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:51:31 AM
To: main@cmra.groups.io <main@cmra.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 
Hi Bob,

I've had success using the bluetooth KISS TNC built into my kenwood
TH-D74 with Windows10 and Android. These radios have gotten overpriced
since they were discontinued so I wouldn't recommend buying one right
now.

I bought and built an EasyDigi (
https://www.ebay.com/sch/cliffordwareham/m.html? ) that I can plug
into a Baofeng or the Kenwood to use VaraFM. I hear there are better
soundcard interfaces for licensed Vara use but I haven't forked over
the money for that license yet.

In the mobile I use a Yaesu FT8800R with a SignalinkUSB connected to
the data port and UZ7HO's SoundModem application for packet and Vara
FM for Vara FM.

For portable HF Winlink i've used a Xiegu X108g with a SignaLink USB
and the previously mentioned applications. I do not recommend this
radio unless you get it for a very good price. I'll probably just lug
the IC7200 around if I try HF portable winlinke for this exercise.

Hopefully the guys can get your setup sorted at that meeting.

73's KE5SUI

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 9:50 AM Boback <RNAckerman@...> wrote:
>
> Ryan,
>
> What hardware are you using for portable Winlink? What I have doesn't seem to work at all and I suspect I need to get different equipment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob, N6VZO
>
>
> On 12/9/21 9:26 AM, Ryan Raney wrote:
>
> Sign me up Bill! I've got winlink VHF capability in the mobile now so I'm willing to test sending from various locations if that helps. I may be able to do HF portable winlink as well just for fun.
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 8:14 AM Ralph Howard <wd6bgn@...> wrote:
>>
>> Let me be the first to offer a BIG WELCOME!
>> I will bring my kit, and with the guys perhaps we can get you going.
>> Your homwork.
>> Can you get your laptop to talk to the TNC?  There is a utility you can download.  Then you can set various paramters.
>> Then make sure you cable is wired correctly.  Btw buzzing a cable is old tech talk for doing a resistance check.
>>
>> 73
>> Ralph
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android
>> ________________________________
>> From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:07:26 AM
>> To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
>>
>>
>> I do plan to join the club Tuesday night, so I plan to be there. I also plan to join BCARES but that has to wait until April due to other commitments on the same night.
>>
>> Bob, N6VZO
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
>>
>> Ok.
>> The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
>> I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
>> Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?
>>
>> I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.
>>
>> I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android
>> ________________________________
>> From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
>> To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
>>
>>
>> The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>
>> Bob, N6VZO
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
>>
>> Bob
>> Couple dumb questions.
>> When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?
>>
>>   Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.
>>
>> Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.
>>
>> I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.
>>
>> Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.
>>
>> Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android
>> ________________________________
>> From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
>> To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
>>
>>
>> I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.
>>
>> Bob, N6VZO
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
>>
>> Howdy.
>> I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
>> It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
>> Hope this helps.
>> Ralph
>> WD6BGN
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android
>> ________________________________
>> From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
>> To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
>>
>>
>> I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.
>>
>> Bob, N6VZO
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
>>
>> Group,
>> There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.
>>
>> So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent.
>>
>> What would you be getting into?
>>
>> Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)
>>
>> So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).
>>
>> The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.
>>
>> It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play.
>>
>> Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).
>>
>> Happy Holiday,
>> --
>> Bill N0AXZ
>
>






Boback
 

I found a couple of wiring details online and tested the cable. All the wiring diagrams I have see match, and I printed one off which I will have with me. I found the cable tested properly and no cross or shorts across elements. I also verified repeatedly that the cables were connected all the way in with each of the female connections. I plan to be at the meeting Tuesday (and join) and I will bring along my Laptop, TNC3, and Icom 51A. As with the cable inserted where it is supposed to, on the Icom, the 2 pin connector only goes in only one way as the 2 pins are of different sizes.

A gut feeling is that I am missing one key point in the setup preventing it from working. I don't know if it is in the software, TNC3 setup, or in the radio. Looking at several websites and videos on YouTube doesn't give me any additional information that I already have seen.

Thanks for the assistance.

73s, Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

Just something else to check.
When you are connected, slow blink.  Can you see some new ports in the device list.  Mine shows 2 like com:11 and Com:12.  Only one works.  If I pick the wrong one I have to reset everything.  Pull battery to reset the TNC.  Then in Settings, remove the TNC and do a search and reconnect.  Ugh
I did get.my T2 to connect to my RMS port.  It did all the hand shaking but would not pass any data.  The T3 is supposed to cure that.
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 7:33:11 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I found a couple of wiring details online and tested the cable. All the wiring diagrams I have see match, and I printed one off which I will have with me. I found the cable tested properly and no cross or shorts across elements. I also verified repeatedly that the cables were connected all the way in with each of the female connections. I plan to be at the meeting Tuesday (and join) and I will bring along my Laptop, TNC3, and Icom 51A. As with the cable inserted where it is supposed to, on the Icom, the 2 pin connector only goes in only one way as the 2 pins are of different sizes.

A gut feeling is that I am missing one key point in the setup preventing it from working. I don't know if it is in the software, TNC3 setup, or in the radio. Looking at several websites and videos on YouTube doesn't give me any additional information that I already have seen.

Thanks for the assistance.

73s, Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Boback
 

Well, after much trial and error, I got Winlink to work, both with my Mobilinkd/ID-51A HT, as well with my mFJ TNC-x Packet Controller/ID-4100A base unit. SInce it works with my ID-4100A, I suspect it will work with my ID-5100A mobile unit.

Thanks everybody for the help. I will still be at the meeting on Tuesday. Suggestions for parking at the new location?

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/10/21 9:43 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Just something else to check.
When you are connected, slow blink.  Can you see some new ports in the device list.  Mine shows 2 like com:11 and Com:12.  Only one works.  If I pick the wrong one I have to reset everything.  Pull battery to reset the TNC.  Then in Settings, remove the TNC and do a search and reconnect.  Ugh
I did get.my T2 to connect to my RMS port.  It did all the hand shaking but would not pass any data.  The T3 is supposed to cure that.
Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 7:33:11 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I found a couple of wiring details online and tested the cable. All the wiring diagrams I have see match, and I printed one off which I will have with me. I found the cable tested properly and no cross or shorts across elements. I also verified repeatedly that the cables were connected all the way in with each of the female connections. I plan to be at the meeting Tuesday (and join) and I will bring along my Laptop, TNC3, and Icom 51A. As with the cable inserted where it is supposed to, on the Icom, the 2 pin connector only goes in only one way as the 2 pins are of different sizes.

A gut feeling is that I am missing one key point in the setup preventing it from working. I don't know if it is in the software, TNC3 setup, or in the radio. Looking at several websites and videos on YouTube doesn't give me any additional information that I already have seen.

Thanks for the assistance.

73s, Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 7:42:47 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:59:53 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:20:12 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ


Ralph Howard
 

Bob
Glad to hear it is working for you.  I only got my Moblnkd T2 to half work.  But my sound card interface is working.  I will bring it along to see if I can connect with Vara.
See you then.
Ralph
WD6BGN


From: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io> on behalf of Boback <RNAckerman@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:53:37 AM
To: main@CMRA.groups.io <main@CMRA.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CMRA] Winlink exercises
 

Well, after much trial and error, I got Winlink to work, both with my Mobilinkd/ID-51A HT, as well with my mFJ TNC-x Packet Controller/ID-4100A base unit. SInce it works with my ID-4100A, I suspect it will work with my ID-5100A mobile unit.

Thanks everybody for the help. I will still be at the meeting on Tuesday. Suggestions for parking at the new location?

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/10/21 9:43 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:

Just something else to check.
When you are connected, slow blink.  Can you see some new ports in the device list.  Mine shows 2 like com:11 and Com:12.  Only one works.  If I pick the wrong one I have to reset everything.  Pull battery to reset the TNC.  Then in Settings, remove the TNC and do a search and reconnect.  Ugh
I did get.my T2 to connect to my RMS port.  It did all the hand shaking but would not pass any data.  The T3 is supposed to cure that.
Ralph


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I found a couple of wiring details online and tested the cable. All the wiring diagrams I have see match, and I printed one off which I will have with me. I found the cable tested properly and no cross or shorts across elements. I also verified repeatedly that the cables were connected all the way in with each of the female connections. I plan to be at the meeting Tuesday (and join) and I will bring along my Laptop, TNC3, and Icom 51A. As with the cable inserted where it is supposed to, on the Icom, the 2 pin connector only goes in only one way as the 2 pins are of different sizes.

A gut feeling is that I am missing one key point in the setup preventing it from working. I don't know if it is in the software, TNC3 setup, or in the radio. Looking at several websites and videos on YouTube doesn't give me any additional information that I already have seen.

Thanks for the assistance.

73s, Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:53 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Ok.
The no transmit tells me that there is a problem with the cable.  I would suggest to buzz the cable.  Make sure the 1/8" 4 way plug, goes to whereit is supposed to go.  I have got bad cables from them.
I could bring my Baofeng cable and you could try that.  That would at least isolate that part.
Are you planing on attending the CMRA meeting next Tuesday?

I just read the the tnc doesn't do winlink with the Baofeng.  I will try my Kenwood instead.

I also attend the Wed Lunch Bunch at High Vee.

Ralph


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The radio does not transmit, and I checked with another radio (I have a base, mobile and HT). I tried the volume at all different levels and set the squelch to various levels also. I think I might have a ferrite or two around here but I don't remember them saying that I needed one. Their data cable is 6" long and if I needed one, I would have suspected they would have included one. I just checked and they have one available on their website. I will look and attach one to the cable and try again.

Thanks for your assistance.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 7:32 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Bob
Couple dumb questions.
When you try and connect, does the radio transmit?

  Can you transmit the test tones?  Use another radio to listen.

Does it connect?  A second radio helps here.  You should heae some handshaking between your station and who you are trying to connect with.

I have to set the volume on my HT quite high.

Mine connects, then just stops.  That is because in packet, after the connection makes, it "shifts gears" to a faster mode.  Mine never makes the shift.  Shifting gears is my term.  If you listen on another radio, you can hear the differance.

Last thing, Mobilkind suggests a ferrite clamped over the radio data cable.  If you don't have one, I have sone spares.

Cheers
Ralph



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I had talked to Mobilinkd support multiple times and they kept say in works with the 51A, and they sold a cable for it, and they keep referring me to the manual to insure I set it up properly. But they finally said, "We don't have a 51A to test it with." I think I am just missing one step in the process so I am looking for hardware recommendations. I have the 51A (HT, external mic connection) and a 5100A (mobile, mic RJ45 cable connection) to work with. My recent interest is from the recent BCARES exercise and I wanted to be able to be mobile and operate Winlink. During the exercise I ended up using my cell phone as a hot spot to connect via internet.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/9/21 6:51 AM, Ralph Howard wrote:
Howdy.
I have a Mobilinkd TNC.  Mine is an early model.  It does not like Winlink.  Is OK for APRS.  And for normal packet radio.  At least that is what the manufacture told me.  He said that the newist version should work with Winlink.
It does work OK with APRSDROID.  I rubber band the TNC to a Boefeng, and run Droid on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Ralph
WD6BGN


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I would like to see a meeting or workshop (Zoom or in person) on setting up Winlink hardware. The software side I understand. I have been unsuccessful in getting the radio transmission side functional. I have Win 10, Mobilinkd TNC, and an Icom ID-51a.

Bob, N6VZO


On 12/8/21 9:43 PM, Bill McFarland - N0AXZ wrote:
Group,
There were a good number of us using Winlink for the SET, but things keep changing and we need to practice to keep our radios doing the right thing as we can forget over time of non-use.

So I am asking for those who would like to do a Winlink exercise once a week to respond to this email. I will take a week to collect your red hot responses and then make a group of Winlink practitioners to which all subsequent emails will be sent. 

What would you be getting into?

Each week I will send you some instructions via your regular internet email describing what you should try in a Winlink session. You will have a few days to do the homework and send your Winlink message. You can use any mode and any RMS node in general with some exceptions. We will experiment with forms, and pictures and some Peer-to-Peer opportunities, and some Tactical call signs with all that. We will specify some non-local RMS nodes to see how well we can get out of the county (HF) should we need that in some emergency response. (but we don't want to swamp any node with all our messages :)

So I would send out a play on Sunday night and you would have until Thursday 11:59 PM to send your Winlink message to me. That will give me Friday and Saturday to see how we are doing and what comes next (or REPEAT).

The developers of Winlink are continually improving the system so we need to open Winlink Express and take the updates that pop up regularly. For instance the Check--in form has just gotten a significant change. You will need to know your GPS coordinates and now they have added What 3 Words (W3W). If you don't know what that is, your first assignment is to find out what your W3W are.

It will be fun and educational all at once. If you have never used Winlink before but are willing to try sending email by radio, join us and ask questions and get help setting things up. At the beginning if you don't have a radio connected to your computer, you can use the Telnet session which only requires you to have internet to play. 

Please send your requests to join, or questions before you commit to me off-list (billmcfarland10@...).

Happy Holiday,
--
Bill N0AXZ